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se; their popularizer。 So he was the person who would take these people who were very profound but not very easy to municate。 I don't think you'd ever get Hayek on the Today show; but you could get Reagan explaining the core of Hayek with better examples and in more understandable language。

NEWT GINGRICH,美國眾議院議長,1995-1999年:里根認識哈耶克;他也認識米爾頓。弗裡德曼。在某種意義上里根是他們的普及者。因此他就是那個推廣這些造詣精神但不容易溝通者的思想的人。我想你不曾讓哈耶克上今日節目,但你可以讓里根用更好的例子和更易懂的預言來解釋哈耶克思想的核心。

RONALD REAGAN; ; 1981…1989: Vote for me; if you believe in yourself; if you believe in your right to control your own destiny and plan your own life; yes; and have a say in the spending of your own money。

里根,美國總統,1981-1989年:如果你相信你自己,如果你堅信你掌握決定自己命運和規劃自己生活的權力(是的,你對於如何花自己的錢有發言權),那麼請投我一票。

The president is going to have more government on the backs of the people and of business and of industry; the working people; in order to try to solve the problems that were created by too much government on our backs。

為了解決太多的政府幹預所造成的問題,總統將對人民、企業和行業進行更多的政府幹預。

We can get government off our backs; out of our pockets。 This kind of indifference to economic disaster must be ended; and it'll be ended by having a different kind of leadership。

我們可以不受政府的干預;這種對經濟災難的漠不關心必須結束;可以透過一種完全不同的領導來結束它。

NARRATOR: The American people voted for change; and Reagan became president。

旁白:美國人投了變革的票,里根當選為總統。

MILTON FRIEDMAN: The situation was this: The only way you could get the inflation down was by having monetary contraction。 There was no way you could do that without having a temporary recession。

弗裡德曼:形勢是這樣的:降低通貨膨脹率的唯一方法是收緊銀根,而這必然引起暫時的衰退。

GEORGE SHULTZ: Obviously; who wants a recession? But I can remember President Reagan using those famous words: "If not now; when? If not us; who?"

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